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genius123_1: GM everyone
kiwichamp:  gm
ahmad_amin: hi
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Ardi1899: Hi all
Ardi1899: any good trade yet?
kiwichamp:  cable starting to move some 
ahmad_amin: hi ardi 
kiwichamp:  so maybe soon
Ardi1899: okay
ahmad_amin: very strong suport in cable near
kiwichamp:  yes
ahmad_amin: 1.8389
toffee_20: Does evryone always have to serach for this room, it never seems to show up in the normal list
kiwichamp:  yes 
kiwichamp:  but you can bookmark it 
Ardi1899: I always search first
kiwichamp:  I found the bookmarking feature tonight - -so now have it bookmarked 
invisiblehat: when i use the bookmark it says it cant find it, i have to search every time.
Ardi1899: "favorites"?
kiwichamp:  mmm I came straight to it from the bookmark
kiwichamp:  yes favorites 
Ardi1899: sometimes I have that problem too
Ardi1899: so I use search features
kiwichamp:  strange -- but at least search finds it quickly 
kiwichamp:  Kaveh most likely does not have his room listed 
Ardi1899: yep, anly a few seconds
Ardi1899: maybe
toffee_20: hopefully 3 decent news events today
Ardi1899: antbody short cable?
kiwichamp:  I was 
invisiblehat: i'm waiting to long.
kiwichamp:  grabbed a few pips 
Ardi1899: why long?
toffee_20: can't see any juice yet
Ardi1899: Juice is 701 at 8.15
toffee_20: sorry my chart hasn't connected, still showing last nights close - duh
toffee_20: anyone else using strategybuilder chart
Ardi1899: why don't u use neuimex?
toffee_20: do they do demo accounts
Ardi1899: I do demo   
kiwichamp:  mmm
kiwichamp:  good to remember to refresh first 
Ardi1899: Is there any Juice which didn't repait the past?
kiwichamp:  yes neuimex is the platform most recommended for this system 
Ardi1899: It happen so fast kiwi
toffee_20: Just registering for a demo account, is it just 30 day or ongoing
kiwichamp:  yeah I understand that 
toffee_20: Think it only repaints the last 5 minutes
kiwichamp:  most MT4 demos you can just open a new account when the first one expires 
kiwichamp:  I just opened an account with North Finance -- 
kiwichamp:  I like it so far 
kiwichamp:  they have 24 hr live help on chat 
kiwichamp:  I like that 
toffee_20: I try to watch a 5m chart and not trade until the 5 min candle closes and the juice is fixed
toffee_20: 5m chart as well as our 1m
Ardi1899: 5 min means 5 bars on 1 min chart
toffee_20: yea, thats the ones that will repaint.
Ardi1899: how can we trade well if the indicator don't show realtime value
toffee_20: They are not actually repainting, just moving until the 5 min period is closed
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Ardi1899: so we have to wait for 5 bars after the 1st signal to enter?
toffee_20: If you have normal juice on a 5m chart you will see it rising and falling until the bar is closed
toffee_20: the 1m chart doesn't show that unless you refresh
Ardi1899: i c thanks for your explanation
toffee_20: not saying you have to wait, just that,s what I do unless it is a strong move, say around data like yesterdays
Ardi1899: so we have to wait for news?
ahmad_amin: i wait for high juces in euro
toffee_20: no, it's just the moves are generelly more consistent around newstime, and a strong juice level helps
kiwichamp:  Kaveh has just posted today's levels on tsd
toffee_20: news just gives the market a reason to move
Ardi1899: how to define a "strong move" so we can trust what we see in juice at real time?
toffee_20: some other times its just normal fluctuations in the market
toffee_20: I tend to stick mainly to UK and US opening where a direction may be set, and news times, much like Kaveh
Ardi1899: i see
toffee_20: thats why we have the break in the middle of the day when price generally drifts
Ardi1899: guys, I have a little thought it's not a superior system, the one which superior is Kaveh himself
toffee_20: If you look back at Kavehs trades over the past few weeks I bet you will find most of them are either near UK open, near US open, or around news
toffee_20: thats just the times that things tend to happen
kiwichamp:  yes those are juice times 
toffee_20: so thats the best times to trade
Ardi1899: I see
toffee_20: limiting your trading times is just as important imho as a good entry and exit
Ardi1899: but if juice repaint itself even it's not more than 5 bar it's hard to rely on them
Ardi1899: yes my other mentor just says something about limiting trade
toffee_20: once registering the neuimex where do I download MT4
toffee_20: screen shows Neuimex - Handelsplattform
toffee_20: is that what I need
Ardi1899: I think they send you an email
kiwichamp:  yes the email will have the link
toffee_20: had that and completed the registration, now need to download MT4
kiwichamp:  or should
kiwichamp:  http://neuimex.com/?id=36  where it says "download Neuimex Terminal"
kiwichamp:  has the link
kiwichamp:  the Neuimex Terminal is MT4
toffee_20: thanks
kiwichamp:  welcome
toffee_20: whats their connectivity like, SBFX is sometimes iffy
Ardi1899: so far so good
kiwichamp:  Neuimex is good 
kiwichamp:  and Nth Finance is also good -
kiwichamp:  they are both the same company actually 
Ardi1899: I'm using NF too
kiwichamp:  you like it ?
kiwichamp:  so far I do 
Ardi1899: yep
kiwichamp:     
Ardi1899: Toffee, are you busy?
ahmad_amin: my long cable +66   
kiwichamp:     
kiwichamp:  good to learn 
ahmad_amin: ok
invisiblehat: do we buy in the direction it is moving when it crosses the pivot?
invisiblehat: 'er buy/sell
toffee_20: don't forget kaveh doesn't trade close to the pivot
mjdwyer: Thanks guys - sorted out my Neuimex problem.
kiwichamp:  great
kiwichamp:  it is MT4 in "disguise"   
samsamsam_30: i prefer cable also
d_thorpey: with a name like toffee u've gotta be an everton man!?
toffee_20: man Im afraid - toffee name of gerbil !!
d_thorpey: lol
toffee_20: man U
jimmylad_1: "steve gerrard gerrard"............................................ LIVERPOOL
d_thorpey: who?
Ardi1899:    
kaveh_48: very confued markets near 70
kaveh_48: maybe break this ICE here
kaveh_48: i think all of markets want to see near 70
kaveh_48: sell
fxfanatic: kaveh, what other indicator u use, in other time frame, i'm using MM and cam lines, and shi channel, what do you recommend? to use
kaveh_48: no
kaveh_48: please see daily charts of eur
kaveh_48: now
fxfanatic: k
fxfanatic: it's broken
fxfanatic: the daily channel is broken on eur
kaveh_48: draw fibo from 1.1835 to high
fxfanatic: 1835?!!
kaveh_48: 28,2,2006
fxfanatic: k
kaveh_48: guys did it?
fxbamdad: yes
childtrader: yep
kiwichamp:  yes
fxfanatic: y
kaveh_48: 38.2 u can find
fxbamdad: yes
kaveh_48: 1.2550
kaveh_48: yes?
kiwichamp:  yes
fxfanatic: 2535
fxfanatic: 2540
kaveh_48: near 1.2550 ok?
fxbamdad: k
childtrader: ok
fxfanatic: k
kaveh_48: this level is very important level for nice bounce eur 
fxfanatic: to revesrce from there to go high?
kaveh_48: if break this level next is 61.8
fxfanatic: aha
kaveh_48: 1.2264
childtrader: nice
fxbamdad: gr8
kaveh_48: but becafeull for this bounce near 1.2550
kaveh_48: if break this 1.2260 we will see this month
kaveh_48: and when bounce from 1.2550 this rally for 1.3000
kaveh_48: ok?
kiwichamp:  ok 
payale: ok
fxbamdad: k
yb2erl: tnx
fxfanatic: you mean if it couldnt break 1.2550 it will go to 1.3000?
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kaveh_48: Q 8 9 has been bounced from the group by: kaveh_48
fxfanatic: what is this 1.3000?
toffee_20: 1.3000 on euro
toffee_20: Kavehs idea of where we might go
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fxfanatic: i know that's on eur? i mean what is that level maybe? 162%
toffee_20: oh
toffee_20: I go bleary eyed when ou start talking about fibs, they can show you anything imho
kaveh_48: very confuesd near 70
xinemm: hi every bady
ahmad_amin: hi
Karkas e Eshegh: hi 
xxTIEN_TRANzz:    
kaveh_48: yep
kaveh_48: but only very confued near 70
IBM_WAY: hello room!!!!!!!!!
sovo1: hi
IBM_WAY: any one like to chat me
mjdwyer: get rid of this guy pls.
kaveh_48: IBM_WAY has been bounced from the group by: kaveh_48
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sovo1:   
lonelychad_1: can any1 go up to the mic?
peter_1234: but we can type n chat   
ahmad_amin: hi fxaus
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fxaus: hi ahmad
kaveh_48: touch high of day
LLBHONS: do you think we will get a strong move back down K?
kaveh_48: are u in?
LLBHONS: not now
kaveh_48: llbhons
LLBHONS: no 
kaveh_48: ok
kaveh_48: but only bull and bear with crazy
charlie20066: Good morning
payale: bounce down from 1.2670. when do we enter again kaveh?
kaveh_48: touch buy zone and now touch sell zone
kaveh_48: i am waiting for break sell zone
payale: ok
karp29: cog must cros??
kaveh_48: yes
kaveh_48: i will back soon
kaveh_48: but notrade
kaveh_48: very risky markets
d_thorpey: .
sovo1: any one was long as all
d_thorpey: everyone still here?
monkey2402: yep, just sulking!
sovo1: yeah. 
sovo1: very sleepy
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d_thorpey: its a nice day here
sovo1: this is worth stay up all night here
d_thorpey: thinking about leaving and going outside
charlie20066: Anybody make any pips today?
Ardi1899: +4 on cable
charlie20066: nice
charlie20066: So this formula is for Cable orgbp
Ardi1899: not as good as yesterday
Ardi1899: is cable = BGP?
charlie20066: I'm new here so I'm just trying to see if this formula works
charlie20066: gbp = pound
ahmad_amin: cable = GBP
azm909: yes GBP
charlie20066: okay
charlie20066: So this formula is for Euro & GBP?
Ardi1899: GBP/JPY too with different setting
charlie20066: okay
Azfar_Khawaja: Ahmad sahab kya haal hay ? 
charlie20066: I went to the website and setup the 1min chart for Euro
charlie20066: as shown on the website
Ardi1899: yup
azm909: did i miss the big move
charlie20066: so are the settings for the 1min Euro & 1min GBP the same?
faraz4fx: yeah you missed a big stop
Ardi1899:    
payale: canary_3, can u change ur font color so it doesnt confuse with Kaveh
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alexw8:  M15 Juice on 22
kaveh_48: near pivot if break u can go long for few pips
charlie20066: yes, thanks monkey I have my Euro setup in place
monkey2402: no problem
charlie20066: kaveh, is there anything I should change for the GBP setup 
kaveh_48: no
charlie20066: kaveh do you know what MTF juice measures? Is it volume or more than that?
kaveh_48: 5min
naturalnetbg: bounce  23.6 from last low
kaveh_48: not yet
payale: going close to pivot for eur
kaveh_48: 10pips under pivot touch and then fall
kaveh_48: touch 1.2683 
kaveh_48: and pivot 1.2693
payale: now wait for cog and juice, right kv
naturalnetbg: 2683 is 23.6
kaveh_48: low and high?
kaveh_48: i dont see it now
naturalnetbg: 2977
naturalnetbg: 05.06
kaveh_48: 1.2805 to low today
kaveh_48: 1.2673 38.2
kaveh_48: nat u must draw this 
kaveh_48: 1.2673 38.2
kaveh_48: 1.2805 to 1.2595
naturalnetbg: yest high
kaveh_48: yep
childtrader: kave are you working on neumiex broker chart or else?
kaveh_48: yes
sovo1: ok
charlie20066: kaveh I see a little burst that somewhat met the criteria for a buy then it died out.  How did you know not to get it (about 14-15 min ago)?
kaveh_48: very crazy markets
childtrader: fibo gorup price have 10 pips diffrence via neumex
charlie20066: true crazy market but how can you tell to get in vs not to get in?
kaveh_48: no clear signal 
charlie20066: I guess, I'm trying to figure out the definition of a clear signal.  COG, Juice what else?
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payale: and timing, i guess
charlie20066: COG, Juice, StopReversal am I missing something?
LLBHONS: arrow to confirm a reversal 
kaveh_48: juice very low
charlie20066: okay
payale: llbhons, i don't think u shld wait for the arrow
LLBHONS: so just trade with the trend Payale?
payale: arrow is a bit misleading
payale: yes
LLBHONS: k thx