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radicalmoses: ok, i am new here, how much was made yesterday??
toffee_20: don't know I'm afraid, when I was present there could have been a early GBP trade which Kaveh showed in hindsight, and a losing trade in the afternoon.
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toffee_20: the morning trade max profit was about 40 pips but people would have got different amounts depending on exit strategy
sovo1: there were 2 entries on cable yesterday.
sovo1: some made more than other
sovo1: Rupp, got around 40-50 pips
sovo1: for me 10 pips
sovo1: i trade only 1 entry
mjdwyer: +30 in 2 trades for me
sovo1: rupp are you here, can you confirm that..
kiwichamp: rupp not here 
sovo1: oh
samsamsam_30: hi
kiwichamp: hi
fellaz: Goodmorning guys
kiwichamp: gm 
fellaz: anyone still short GBPUSD?
ahmad_amin: i short euro
mjdwyer: short GBP but it needs to fall soon or I am out
d_thorpey: right on cue
mjdwyer: that's better
toffee_20: Ardi, here http://www.forex-tsd.com/catfx50/1504-catfx50-indicators-2.html post #15
Ardi1899:  I'll try It. thanks
Ardi1899:  you use it with default parameter?
toffee_20: 4 times - step size 13,15,18 and 21 - won't discuss it any further here, dont want to upset the system
Ardi1899:  okay
toffee_20: or anyone here
sovo1: ardi , i try to send you the file
Ardi1899:  thanks sovo
sovo1: you still need it
Ardi1899:  toffe If I want to ask something about it, may I pm u?
toffee_20: yep
Ardi1899:  Thanks
toffee_20: On tsd my name is rollingstone
Ardi1899:  Thanks Sovo I already accept the file
sovo1: k
sovo1: wc
samsamsam_30: con someone tell me what was the last signal
toffee_20: on what pair
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samsamsam_30: any
payale: anyone watching bloomberg tv?
payale: al-zarqawi is reportedly killed nin a an air strike it seems.
toffee_20: GBP was between 7.33-40 bst for sell entry
sovo1:    
payale: the l4 breakout on gbp and eur is because of this news
toffee_20: euro about the same on my chart, would have gone 15pips in loss before coming back though
samsamsam_30: thanks
Ardi1899:  good for $
payale: yes
toffee_20: unfortunately there are plenty to take his place if the news is confirmed
monkey2402: whats the news??
toffee_20: al-zarqawi may have been killed
monkey2402: thx
samsamsam_30: its on ccn now
payale: it is on bloomberg tv
fellaz: its been confirmed
payale: he is #2 on the list, so that shld shake up the market. already oil price down
fellaz: i think i´ll wait for that rate hike before trading 
payale: good idea
fellaz: it has to move the market, so i can pick my 20 pips
samsamsam_30: when did the news come out, not tv , anyone with a feed
payale: analyst again call for only a 25bp increase, so there maybe a knee-jerk reaction
kiwichamp: http://fxtrade.oanda.com/resources/4cast/indexi.shtml
kiwichamp: News thread 
kiwichamp: from Oanda -- very good
kiwichamp: mentions tonights news
payale: not sure when the first news came, i happen to read it in fxcm and then turned on the bloomber tv online
payale: abc news reported it first about the us air strike
samsamsam_30: I wonder who got the bounty
samsamsam_30: 25m bounty    
payale: big amount indeed
kiwichamp: Good old Google News 
kiwichamp: http://news.google.com/news?ned=us
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radicalmoses: nobody got the bounty
Ramin_Aust:  hi guys
kiwichamp: hi
Ardi1899:  us army got the bounty
sovo1: hurray for the U.S of A
sovo1:    
radicalmoses: well, they still gotta get the big man himself
radicalmoses: lotsa work to do
sovo1: yes, but step by step
sovo1: inch by inch
sovo1: we will get him
Ardi1899:  pip by pip     
invisiblehat: they finally killed one of the guys they were looking for.
invisiblehat: after 70,000 innocents
sovo1: lol
Ardi1899:  too bad for the other 70k
dehav: "Zarqawi was apparently injured at first ... The Americans found him. They handed him over to the Iraqis and he later died of his injuries," ABC said.
kiwichamp: for sure 
kiwichamp: thats the sad part 
dehav: lol how dodgy does that sound
dehav: good ridance
sovo1: yes. sorry for the innocents
kaveh_48: hi guys
kaveh_48: how are u today?
Ramin_Aust: hi
kiwichamp: hi Kaveh 
dehav: hi
Ardi1899:  fine Kaveh
invisiblehat: hey
Ardi1899:  n how r u?
sovo1: hi kv
kaveh_48: very good today
kaveh_48: please see tsd form now
kiwichamp: great
kaveh_48: +80pips today
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Ardi1899:  80 pips? how?
kaveh_48: see tsd forum
kaveh_48: froum
Ardi1899:  ok
kaveh_48: az u see how juice shoot eur
invisiblehat: what happend to cable?
kaveh_48: 8:35 cet
invisiblehat: just now, cable dropped like crazy
kaveh_48: 8:35 cet u see how eur shoot
kaveh_48: this original formula
kaveh_48: is
karp29: what now on cable??
LLBHONS: June 8. Cable has tripped stops below 1.8500 en route to new one-month lows a few pips shy of 1.8475 (May 5 low), with Iraqi reports saying that Zarquawi is dead (BBC website) helping weigh. 1.8500 now represents a rebound resistance level. 
LLBHONS: according to FXCM
karp29: kaveh could you tell us live when you are entering
LLBHONS: Kaveh are you in on GBP/JPY?
kaveh_48: yep
karp29: kaveh what you tell us about juice, it's changing, and in past it look's good, but in live not
kaveh_48: +42pips now
LLBHONS:  
radicalmoses: what the hell triggered those stops on gbp, that was nasty
d_thorpey: data relaese
radicalmoses: does this work on any other time frame?? anyone try this?
karp29: kaveh could you tell us when you are entering 
genius123_1: please, that help us...
kaveh_48: see tsd 
kaveh_48: karp
hamid268: hi all
hamid268: hi kaveh
kaveh_48: karp u want to lrean or u want to earn?
Ramin_Aust: hi hamid
karp29: yes I know on screen everything looks great
karp29: but 
hamid268: hi ramin
kaveh_48: see juice on eur at 8:35
kaveh_48: how shoot eur for lowwer?
karp29: but in live it's not easy
karp29: now I  want to learn
LLBHONS: Kaveh are you waiting for COG up to enter GBP/JPY (Long)?
kaveh_48: no
kaveh_48: i short
Ardi1899:  Hi Kaveh Juice on cable looks good too at 9.02 did you take it too?
genius123_1: Kaveh, if you tell what you are doing, we are lernning...i'm playing demo so i want learn, not earn. 
karp29: kaveh if you tell us once for example ( I'm in or Im enter cable S) it will be great and we can beter understand this system.
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Ardi1899:  I want to earn, but of course I have to learn first    
genius123_1: yes, it's true, Ardi1899  
radicalmoses: the rules are pretty simple, make sure all 3 indicators align and take the trade with a tight SL
up4life: gm kaveh 
up4life: and all
radicalmoses: keep it simple
toffee_20: can we see the details of the +80 pips trade today, presume it was the GBP ?
Ardi1899:  But it's not easy to do especially for beginner like me
kiwichamp: the chart is on forex-tsd
radicalmoses: its on the TSD forum
radicalmoses: ardi, how long u been trading?
Ardi1899:  about 4 months with different system
toffee_20: Thanks, have you changed the rule that we wait for a step down of the cog before entering
Ardi1899:  It's my 3rd days using kvs
radicalmoses: if u were learning to drive, would u take a ferrari on the highway in the fast lane?
kaveh_48: guys this system is very easy
radicalmoses: ardi, u not even completed 4 month and u want to trade off the 1min chart?
Ardi1899:  I guess not
kaveh_48: for signal u must only juice for eur
Ardi1899:  well radicalmoses, I want to try this system
Ardi1899:  yes Kaveh, this should be easy
kaveh_48: and confrem and right setup
Ardi1899:  but need time to get used to it
radicalmoses: it looks like easy money ardi,, but not for u,, IMHO, but the decision is entirely upto u
kaveh_48: only use this system
kaveh_48: and not confued 
Ardi1899:  Let me try it first    
Ardi1899:  okay
kaveh_48: see  cable/jpy
kaveh_48: really nice setup today
kaveh_48: do could take very very easy +30pips today
toffee_20: was waiting for the step down not applicable on the GBP trade on tsd ?
karp29: Im 0 today
kaveh_48: no setp noe....
kaveh_48: only juice +0.05
kaveh_48: nice setup for cable too
Ardi1899:  Kaveh, juice on Eur at 8.35  looks good, why didn't you take it?
toffee_20: but 2 days ago we were waiting for step down before entering trades
toffee_20: just trying to understand the difference
kaveh_48: juice +cross +arrow
kaveh_48: i see eur and i trade cabel and .....
kaveh_48: cable
kaveh_48: i trade today gold too
toffee_20: Tuesday it was juice+cross+arrow+step down on cog ?
kaveh_48: cz eur shoot
Ardi1899:  shoot?
kaveh_48: yet
toffee_20: everyone was talking about "cog must cross 1818 etc"
kaveh_48: see cable how nice cross one level
kaveh_48: i send u today 1.2790 too 38.2
kaveh_48: this bounce happen near 38.2
kaveh_48: today
karp29: kaveh you are refresh your chart all the time ??
kaveh_48: yep
mjdwyer:  by "shoot" I think he means big long bars - need to be careful trading these. IMHO
karp29: beacouse when I refresh juice is changing
toffee_20: can you refresh chart with a keystroke instead of mouse clicks
Ardi1899:  big ling bar on 15 min?
mjdwyer: I had one on the 1 min
kaveh_48: guys lastday u saw +7juice on eur?
kaveh_48: means only confuesd markets
kaveh_48: and i didnt trade any pairs
kaveh_48: means no juice and no trade
kaveh_48: but 8:35 we have big juice and big move
kaveh_48: at 8:35 i sold gold too
kaveh_48: today we have 2big news
kaveh_48: i will trade here optional
Ardi1899:  what is criteria of big juice kaveh?
kaveh_48: when shoot +7
Ardi1899:  5 min only?
kaveh_48: and break level
kaveh_48: yep
kaveh_48: see 1min charts
kaveh_48: eur
kaveh_48: big juice break s2 very easy
Ardi1899:  I think "break level" is what I miss
kaveh_48: this is big juice
kaveh_48: and bounce near s1
kaveh_48: this is big juice
Ardi1899:  so at eur 8.35 there's no "break level"
kaveh_48: got it?
karp29: kaveh what you tell about cable/jpn beatwen 8:02 8:05 today ????
kaveh_48: yes break 72 very easy
karp29: why don't trade ??
kaveh_48: i trade cable/jpy
karp29: but beatwen 8:02 8:05 today
karp29: juice was over 0.05
kaveh_48: yep
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kiwichamp: so biggest factor is juice 
karp29: and why you don't trade??
karp29: beacouse I go Long
karp29: and I;m lost 16
karp29: and you?
sovo1: kaveh, can you update the thread for the setting of the juice level.  Thanks
karp29: and why you go S on cable at 8:30 if it was near L3?? 
kaveh_48: the setup is ok
kaveh_48: no chang anything
sovo1: but the juice setting is not the same for all currency base
Ardi1899:  Sovo, 0.005 is for GBP/JPY only
sovo1: .005 is for both m5 and m15
kaveh_48: 0.05 for cable/jpy
kaveh_48: 0.05
karp29: kaveh would you explain me this?
Ardi1899:  ok
kaveh_48: see form tsd
kaveh_48: i expalined there
kaveh_48: karp
kaveh_48: karp why u lost today
kaveh_48: ?
karp29: you don't answer for my questions
d_thorpey: post #40 shows you kaveh's gbp/jpy set up
karp29: beacouse I go L on cable/jpn at 8:05
kaveh_48: i explain to tsd form with pic
Ardi1899:  I lost too, euro on 8.35
karp29: why I shouldn't go at 8:05???
kaveh_48: why
kaveh_48: u see cog on eur
genius123_1: Haveh, why you sold eur/usd at 8.31 since price was near l3
kaveh_48: why u must loss
kaveh_48: why adri899??????
karp29: but I'm talkin about cable/jpn
kaveh_48: why u loss today
sovo1: ka veh on the pic eur/usd you set juice at m15=.0005
kaveh_48: the trend is down why u long eur
Ardi1899:  coq is down, there'a a short arrow before, and juice is +7
kaveh_48: no problem
Ardi1899:  soorr..
Ardi1899:  I short eur
kaveh_48: cog was down
kaveh_48: u must short
Ardi1899:  Yes I did
kaveh_48: and u long it?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kaveh_48: read thread more and more and more...............
Ardi1899:  I think I was tell u that I short and I lost
kaveh_48: how long u trade ardi??????
toffee_20: how could you short and lose ?
kaveh_48: cog was down and u must short
toffee_20: stop must have been too tight
Ardi1899:  about 4 months
kaveh_48: be with us and learn how i trade
karp29: kaveh so I think on cable/jpn this in not good signal for any trade at 8:05???? everything looks good, so I I shouldn't go Long at that momnent?????
Ardi1899:  Okay I'll try my best
Orhan 21: orhan_6529597@hotmail.com  im male   turkey    my msn add
radicalmoses: i think better to stay with only on currency for room trading
Orhan 21: orhan_6529597@hotmail.com  im male   turkey    my msn add
kaveh_48: see your arrow karp
radicalmoses: too many currencies, too much confusion
kaveh_48: where is your arrow
karp29: stopreversal????
kaveh_48: yep
kaveh_48: arrow is out of time
kaveh_48: is ok?
Orhan 21: orhan_6529597@hotmail.com  im male   turkey    my msn add
Orhan 21: orhan_6529597@hotmail.com  im male   turkey    my msn add
karp29: yes 
karp29: ok 
Orhan 21: ok
karp29: thank's
kaveh_48: Orhan 21 has been bounced from the group by: kaveh_48
toffee_20: thanks kaveh
kaveh_48: your signal was 9:32
kaveh_48: for cable/jpy
radicalmoses: kaveh, u trading 3 currencies in the room?
kaveh_48: yep
kaveh_48: when we have news?????
radicalmoses: that is why too much confusion, IMHO
kaveh_48: what is your problem radio..?
radicalmoses: better eur and cable only, easier to learn tht way for new ppl
kaveh_48: u trade this
kaveh_48: noproblem
genius123_1: why you sold eur/usd at 8.31 since price was near l3
kaveh_48: 8:35 cz juice shoot eur to 65
kaveh_48: we dont trade near pivot not l3
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genius123_1: ok, thx
Ardi1899:  So we don't trade near pivot nor L3, so any other rules beside juice+cog+and arrow?
faraz4fx: Hi all
karp29: but price could bounce from L3????
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hamid268: bah hiiiiiiii faraz
kaveh_48: only we dont trade near pivot
kaveh_48: only piovt
faraz4fx: hi hamid
faraz4fx: :D
kaveh_48: this is first lesson of forex
Ardi1899:  ic.. only pivot
karp29: near , how near??
kaveh_48: no trade at pivot
Ardi1899:  then you're my first teacher    
Ardi1899:  mentor I mean
toffee_20: can you refresh chart with keystroke ?
karp29: kaveh how near pivot how many pips??
Ardi1899:  what is criteria of "near pivot"? how many pips? or just closer than any other lines?
kaveh_48: 5or6or....10pips
karp29: ok
Ardi1899:  ok
Ardi1899:  5-10
kaveh_48: big news come 1.5hours
kaveh_48: i will trade here live with u
Ardi1899:  thanks 
kiwichamp: thanks 
kaveh_48: but first learn
Ardi1899:  but isn't it already out of time?
kaveh_48: not earn
kiwichamp: I have learned more here in the 4 days I have been here than months other places 
kiwichamp: thank you 
kaveh_48: optional trade
karp29: kaveh explain me why U go S on cable  near L3?? you dont afraid that the price bounce from L3 level???
Ardi1899:  I see
kaveh_48: karp trend was down ok?
karp29: you mean cog??
kaveh_48: yep
karp29: I'm traing understan this
kaveh_48: and last2day trend
kaveh_48: was down
kaveh_48: ok?
karp29: hmm ok
d_thorpey: juice was on our side
kaveh_48: juice on eur shot price to lowwer and eur bounce near 38.2 az i posted today
kaveh_48: ok?
kaveh_48: karp ok?
karp29: no i think ok
kaveh_48: karp
karp29:  :|
kaveh_48: why u think must bounce near l3?
karp29: not must 
kaveh_48: ???
karp29: but probably
karp29: in my chart L3 is on 1.8537
kaveh_48: i talk only on eur
karp29: now I'm talking about cable
karp29: about your trade today at 8:35
kaveh_48: now draw high to low from 8:13 to 9:21
kaveh_48: answer me karrp
karp29: moment
kaveh_48: draw 8:13 to 9:21
kaveh_48: high to low
kaveh_48: 1 min
kaveh_48: eur bounce near l3 but not break 61.8
kaveh_48: means with this juice will be lower
kaveh_48: got it?
karp29: moment analising now
karp29: ok  
kaveh_48: no if eur break 61.8 now with juice means u can long just just for few pips not more
kaveh_48: now
karp29: understan that
kaveh_48: means go near pips and then fall
kaveh_48: or 38.2 
kaveh_48: but az i told u long risk high than short
kaveh_48: cz trend is down
karp29: ok I know now
kaveh_48: cz markets is below weekly pivot
kaveh_48: cz...............is down
kaveh_48: got it guys
Ardi1899:  So have to understand the concept of fibonacci and pivot point if we want to trade this system
Ardi1899:  not as easy as I thought
Ardi1899:  but really worth to learn
kaveh_48: d_thorpey is here?
Ardi1899:  his name is just below your name
kaveh_48: are u here
kaveh_48: i will be back soon
karp29: kaveh could you answer for only  1 question ??
kaveh_48: yep
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karp29: how often you refresch chart
karp29: ??
d_thorpey: yes i'm here
kaveh_48: when arrows appear and mrkets move
kaveh_48: what is your mean last posted?
kaveh_48: to tsd
kaveh_48: i dont understant
bill3002: how does one refresh charts
d_thorpey: i was explaining the stopreversal indicator. i posted one with a line to show you when the arrows appear
kaveh_48: ok thx but i anwser to u wrong
kaveh_48: thx
kaveh_48: i will back soon
d_thorpey: ok
kaveh_48: now bye
mjdwyer: How do you refresh charts?
kiwichamp: I reload the template
sovo1: i think right hand click the mouse
sovo1: inside the chart 
monkey2402: go to chart tab at top of page, refresh button is there
sovo1: see refresh
sovo1: click on refresh
mjdwyer: ok - thanks
sovo1: try let's me know
kiwichamp: aaa I see that now too 
kiwichamp: thanks
radicalmoses: right click and click "refresh"
ahmad_amin: or change your time frame and back
sovo1: welcome
kiwichamp: or reload template -- but refresh is easiest
sovo1: of course, 1 min trading = 
sovo1: time is money my friend
radicalmoses: 1hr more for BOE news?
kiwichamp: yes
sovo1: i was looking at the pic by kaveh.
radicalmoses: volatile news, gonna move the market real good
sovo1: on juice level he set for eur is at 5
sovo1: correct
sovo1: on m15 tf
radicalmoses: i think better to concentrate on 1 pair and trade that pair only
sovo1: yes, but kaveh said, eur is the anchor to trade his system
radicalmoses: well, i think gbp works too
radicalmoses: the rules are same there too
radicalmoses: not much change for gbp
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mjdwyer: During the last 4 or 5 days I have made good money trading the GBP and noticed there have been very few trades in EUR. Also, I have trouble  concentrating on too many charts, so think I will just stick to GBP.  But....his system does work!
radicalmoses: mjd, i m totally into gbp only
radicalmoses: eur is too slow
kiwichamp: you using Kaveh's exact system on Cable only ?
kiwichamp: mjdwyer ?
kiwichamp: I have been considering focusing only on Cable -- 
radicalmoses: i have been trading gb with my own system, making about 20-50pips
kiwichamp: great 
radicalmoses: thought i will try out this system and see how good it is
kiwichamp: yes -- 
radicalmoses: but never have really seen anyone trade of 1min chart
radicalmoses: very very tough
kiwichamp: he uses 5 and 15 min filters on COG and Juice 
mjdwyer: Yep - never thought I would be trading off 1 min. charts. But as you point out, there are longer term filters.
radicalmoses: its like competing with floor traders
kiwichamp:  
radicalmoses: i will watch and see, if this can be traded
radicalmoses: the only advantage is you can have tight stops
kiwichamp: yes
mjdwyer: Is kiwichamp from NZ?
kiwichamp: yeo
kiwichamp: yep
mjdwyer: Getting late for you..
trader111_1: I  short eurusd at1.2761 for 20 pip
radicalmoses: mjd, u been trading this with gbp, how long??
kiwichamp: I am in Texas at the moment 
kiwichamp: so it is even later -- well early now 5.24 in the morning
mjdwyer: ONly last 5/6 days, so early days yet.  Kiwi, where in Texas?
kiwichamp: San Antonio
kiwichamp: nicest city in Tx   -- 
mjdwyer: I used to live there once - a great place.  
kiwichamp: yes
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monkey2402: mjd, i take it u dont wait foe eur juice before taking a cable trade then?
monkey2402: for
kiwichamp: just found this -- 
kiwichamp: http://neuimex.com/?id=0
mjdwyer: Hell no.
monkey2402: but u wait for all the indicators to be right on cable?
mjdwyer: Sure do.
monkey2402: in 4 days, all winners?
mjdwyer: Yes, I think so.  Usually I got out too soon, like today, because I didn't have the courage to follow his exit rules.
radicalmoses: what is the exact exit rule?
radicalmoses: only juice below 7?
monkey2402: i had a different problem, waited too long yesterday, and turned +30 pips into a loss(muppet!)
monkey2402: today i'm doing better, banking at 20
radicalmoses: hey wht hapened about the 100pips?
radicalmoses: 1000pips made in last 2weeks here
mjdwyer: He says when juice<7 or COG crosses.  Monkey2402 good work today. Re yesterday never let a 20 pips profit turn into a loss.
kiwichamp: and that is just on Cable Radicalmoses ?
monkey2402: yes- i'm learning..the hard way! it was weds sorry
kiwichamp: wed is a hard day often no 
radicalmoses: dunno kiwi, i read it on the forum
kiwichamp: aaa ok 
kiwichamp: well I have noticed that Wed are often the quiet day of the week
mjdwyer: See you guys - I am going to watch some TV and then head to bed.
kiwichamp: ok 
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qtrader-re: good morning Kaveh -everyone
monkey2402: Hi
kaveh_48: hi
kiwichamp: hi
kaveh_48: eur move s1-s2
kaveh_48: 12 mins to news
kaveh_48: sell zone 1.2780 now
d_thorpey: news now
d_thorpey: from uk
kaveh_48: ok 1 mins
kaveh_48: if breaks this with juice u can do for few pips
kaveh_48: and if break 40 u can short
kaveh_48: if break 40 next target 15
kaveh_48: az u see bounce near 38.2
kaveh_48: and cog cross now
kaveh_48: bounce 65
Ramin_Aust: kaveh,news is in 40 min
kaveh_48: for uk yes
kaveh_48: But ECB news 5mins later
d_thorpey: for euro in 40 mins
d_thorpey: uk news already out
kaveh_48: means RATE?
d_thorpey: uk rate unchanged
kaveh_48: let me see my calender
d_thorpey: 08-Jun-2006 12:01:21 *BOE KEEPS KEY REPO RATE UNCHANGED AT 4.50 PCT FOR TENTH MONTH RUNNING 
kaveh_48: 7:00 est time uk news
kaveh_48: ok?
d_thorpey: yes
kaveh_48: and 7:45 EST eur news?
kaveh_48: ok?
d_thorpey: yes
kaveh_48: ok
Ramin_Aust: yep
kaveh_48: i was wrong
kaveh_48: i think 7:00 ECB rate
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d_thorpey: 35 mins to go
radicalmoses: no news yet??
kaveh_48: but nothing move for cable for rate cz unchang
kaveh_48: will wait for ECB rate
kaveh_48: %2.75?
Ramin_Aust: does normaly have a big move ECB news???
kaveh_48: somtimes yes
Nebuluz: so what does the crystal ball tell us to do... short or long... will ECB give unexpected result :D
kaveh_48: and KOHN SPEEK at 10.00 EST too
bobbhim: gm guys
bobbhim: and gals
bobbhim: how are u today?
ahmad_amin: hi bobbhim
bobbhim: ahmad   hi
bobbhim: is Kav here today?
ahmad_amin: yes
bobbhim: ok
bobbhim: thanks
bobbhim: any trades at the moment?
kaveh_48: no
bobbhim: ty
kaveh_48: stop near 70
kaveh_48: 38.2
bobbhim: euro usd ?
kaveh_48: yep
bobbhim: potential trade
bobbhim: or are you selling soon?
kaveh_48: not yet
bobbhim: k
kaveh_48: sell zone near80
bobbhim: understand
kaveh_48: if break this u can take few pips
kaveh_48: near pivot
bobbhim: long at that time to pivot?
bobbhim: for 14 pips?
kaveh_48: break 80
kaveh_48: optional trade
bobbhim: yes i now understand thanks
bee999: hi all
kaveh_48: hi bee999
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kaveh_48: if bounce 80 u can short
Barry411: on the EUR
kaveh_48: yep
Barry411: ok
bee999: thx
kaveh_48: 38.2 and 23.6 only
kaveh_48: move
kaveh_48: 61.8 and l3 1.2780
jimmylad_1: 5 mins to go
kaveh_48: thx kiwichamp for your answer
kiwichamp: you are welcome -- 
kaveh_48:    
qtrader-: kaveh  good morning
qtrader-: long eur?
kaveh_48: hi qtrader
kaveh_48: no
qtrader-: ok lol    waiting?
qtrader-: for news?
kaveh_48: yep
qtrader-: how soon do you enter  after the news?
kaveh_48: when juice come
qtrader-: please shout loud when it comes - pls
qtrader-: I have juice
qtrader-: no
kaveh_48: where is your juice?
qtrader-:  no juice
qtrader-: had it and lost it
Ardi1899:  short arrow on euro
payale: 2.75 as exp news out
qtrader-: have juice to the downside
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qtrader-: kaveh what do you have
kaveh_48: sell 40
qtrader-: thanks
bobbhim: target?
kaveh_48: 15 first
d_thorpey: stop?
kaveh_48: stop 65
payale: hi kaveh, is 15 the first profit tgt?
kaveh_48: yep
payale: unx
payale: thnx
premier_74:    
d_thorpey: kaveh will you move your stop?
monkey2402:    lost my connection, are you in?
kaveh_48: yes
zauraz: kaveh, what level is 15?
kaveh_48: wait
monkey2402: up how many pips?
kaveh_48: +12pips here
payale: that is below the L5 tgt
monkey2402: you the man!
kaveh_48: +16pips
payale: +22
naturalnetbg: 4/8
kaveh_48: +22here
kaveh_48: close near 15
Rupp7: what about cable?
zauraz: kaveh, why 15?
Rupp7: i shorted cable
payale: mr too
yb2erl: + 43 on cable
payale: +33
kaveh_48: close near 25
kaveh_48: cable near 25
bobbhim: still holding?
kaveh_48: my stop 45
trader111_1: trader111_1:  I  short eurusd at1.2761 for 20 pip      very good get the target and more
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qtrader-: great job kaveh- 
qtrader-:    
qtrader-: thanks
kaveh_48: out +18pips
Rupp7: cable bounce of 2/8
kaveh_48: yep
faraz4fx: lot?
bobbhim: out @+19 thanks man
kaveh_48: 130lots
et_phonehome_2: 13:50 was the time to take the GBP/usd trade?
genius123_1: 130 lots nice 
kaveh_48: if break 15 i will short
radicalmoses: 31+ pips on gbp
radicalmoses: tks kav
bobbhim: 130 lots? omg 
fxfanatic: what is 15 kaveh?
radicalmoses: 130lots?
kaveh_48: az u bounce 1.2715
bobbhim: last resistance point
bobbhim: support
Barry411: US news in 17 minutes
kaveh_48: yep
kaveh_48: all of u must out 
radicalmoses: 1pip=1300$?
naturalnetbg: big support 4/8
kaveh_48: if bounce 38 u can short
kaveh_48: for few pips
payale: yes thnx kaveh, 13 eur and 30 gbp
kaveh_48: optional trade
kaveh_48: please answer one of guys on TSD
kaveh_48: he is like FOX not like LION
Rupp7: lol
kaveh_48: we trade here like LION
Ardi1899:  maube he is still here
Rupp7: who?
kaveh_48: SEE TSD form now
kaveh_48: thx kiwi again
trader111_1: 12:30pm USA Unemployment Claims 
up4life: lbl.
radicalmoses: anyone else hving problem with MT4?
kaveh_48: az u see how juice shoot the price
Ramin_Aust: kaveh,maybe short here again
kaveh_48: no
radicalmoses: someone plz tell me last price on gbp?
et_phonehome_2: 1.8433
kaveh_48: bounce from 38 but juice low
Ardi1899:  8433
kaveh_48: see juice ramin
radicalmoses: tks
radicalmoses: lost all my feeds
Ramin_Aust: ok thx
trader111_1: Mr.kaveh_48 can we get template to your indicator
radicalmoses: template is on the forum thread
radicalmoses: everything is there
trader111_1: show me the thread please
Rupp7: link at top
radicalmoses: search reversal system
et_phonehome_2: i believe he he/she mean chart template
Barry411: http://www.forex-tsd.com/suggestions-trading-systems/2282-reversal-trading-system-19.html
Rupp7: just click link, template is there too
radicalmoses: last price on gbp plz
radicalmoses: fish, lost my chart feeds
faraz4fx: 8440
radicalmoses: tks
faraz4fx: ping your broker real server IP
et_phonehome_2: 1.8441
et_phonehome_2: 437
radicalmoses: tks
Ardi1899:  nice pips to day
radicalmoses: out of gbp +30pips
Ardi1899:  me too
Ramin_Aust: kaveh,can u plz say why was ur target 1.2715?????
radicalmoses: good work ardi
Ardi1899:  Thank you
kaveh_48: near l5
Ramin_Aust: yeah,and why
Ramin_Aust: how did u know that?
kaveh_48: key level
kaveh_48: see doc
payale:  1.2715 near the key S1 lvl 1.2711, right kaveh
kaveh_48: and l5
fxfanatic: kaveh, there is no trade here?
kaveh_48: see again how bounc near 15
fxfanatic: yes, what's that means?
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kaveh_48: see TSD form fxfanatic
fxfanatic: k
kaveh_48: go
kaveh_48: 17 i sold
Barry411: I have s2 at 17 and L5 SB target at 11 which on is it
kaveh_48: 10pips traget
fxfanatic: why did you sold kaveh?
radicalmoses: bounce
qtrader-: short kaveh?
kaveh_48: +10pip
kaveh_48: i told u if break 15 u can short
sovo1: wow
kaveh_48: +28pips optional trade
radicalmoses: lost 30pips
radicalmoses: should have stayed short
Rupp7: whoa
kaveh_48: i short 2700 
genius123_1: Kaveh...the big arrows on your screen-what it is?
dehav: target?
kaveh_48: but realy work fast
kaveh_48: 1.2670
Ardi1899:  wow.. I miss euro
dehav: thx
kaveh_48: +30pips here
fxfanatic: it break 2695
kaveh_48: +58pips 
fxfanatic: mm 4/8
bobbhim: missed that
Ardi1899:  I still hold on cable around 30 pips
kaveh_48: i miss to to call cz move very fast
kaveh_48: +58pips here
radicalmoses: ardi, that was a 100pip move
radicalmoses: from our pos..lol
Ramin_Aust: to late to get in??
Karkas e Eshegh: very thx kaveh , its very good
Nebuluz: +90 pips so far :D
Ardi1899:      
radicalmoses: nebu,,very good
radicalmoses: i think i would love to trade 100lot on thismove
radicalmoses: lol
kaveh_48: short near 1.2705
kaveh_48: or 1.2694
kaveh_48: it moves very fast to call u for short again
kaveh_48: but i took +58pips
kaveh_48: so sorry guys
Ardi1899:  fine, tha't cool
Ardi1899:  that's cool
Rupp7: no prblem
Nebuluz: did put a stop at 1.2700 now, before greed kills me :D
zauraz: yup fabuluos trading
kaveh_48: i am out 
kaveh_48: near 05 u can sell
kaveh_48: see how juice shoot price guys
kaveh_48: this my meant
payale: trichet speaking
fxfanatic: how much lot you sold this time, kave? 200 lot?
kaveh_48: many lots
kaveh_48: i told u i hunt like LION
monkey2402: i was short eur lookin for 20 pips, but my trading platform crashed, called the broker and got out with 40pips!! thanks Kav!
Ardi1899:  You're just lucky Monkey2402    
monkey2402: Today i,m lucky!
Ramin_Aust: kaveh,short now
payale: trichet speaking, press conference right now. shld see more movement. what shld we look for kaveh?
kaveh_48: no
kaveh_48: break 70 short
payale: thnx
kaveh_48: for 1.2660
kaveh_48: go
fxfanatic: what is 2660?
kaveh_48: +10pips here
kaveh_48: out
Nebuluz: lol +35 more
kaveh_48: really nice guys
d_thorpey: nice
dehav: nw kaveh    10 here too 
zauraz: fantastic  
Nebuluz: now im out i think :D
LLBHONS: 10 
kaveh_48: 1.2650 risky
kaveh_48: ramin you took it?
Rupp7: wow my broker keep freezing
Ramin_Aust: yes and thx alot
kaveh_48: very nice man
kaveh_48: fxfanatic you took it
fxfanatic: no
Rupp7: I placed 2 orders and didnt even see them 
Ramin_Aust: i really appricate it 
bholiday: my platform frozen
fxfanatic: got late
d_thorpey: which platform is that bholiday?
bill3002: rupp...what broker?
Rupp7: OANDA, but demo account
kaveh_48: near 80 u can sell
fxfanatic: how do you know that?
kaveh_48: my platform move faster
fxfanatic: retracement?
kaveh_48: 23.6
kaveh_48: yep
bholiday: oanda
Rupp7: and now it unfroze, and i see 2 orders gbp and eur both +7 so I close them lol
Rupp7: so i still got +15
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d_thorpey: kaveh do your fib lines draw themselves or do you draw them everytime there is a new low?
kaveh_48: yep
kaveh_48: work very nice
d_thorpey: which?
fxfanatic: 2685 is 61.8%?
kaveh_48: everythimes
monkey2402: what a beautiful looking chart eh?
kaveh_48: from 1.2770 to 1.2652
kaveh_48: 1.2680
Ramin_Aust: juice is still high
kaveh_48: if break 50 u can short 1.2635
fxfanatic: you mean 50% retrace?
fxfanatic: on eur?
kaveh_48: yep
Ramin_Aust: kaveh,at this moment r u looking for COG too??
fxfanatic: and 2635 is target?
kaveh_48: only juice
kaveh_48: very high
fxfanatic: you trade eur only kaveh
kaveh_48: i see it for another pairs
fxfanatic: what pair?
fxfanatic: pound
kaveh_48: cable
fxfanatic: and trade cable?
kaveh_48: yes
kaveh_48: many pips i hunt today
kaveh_48: in may real account near 210pips
fxfanatic: yesterday you said cable is silly, but today you trade it
fxfanatic: cable is good one with eur
kaveh_48: silly for big move
fxfanatic: y
kaveh_48: when eur move 10pips cable move 30pips
kaveh_48: somtimes
kaveh_48: is silly yes?
fxfanatic: i confirme what you say
Rupp7: many many pips very early
Rupp7: thikn there will be more still?
bobbhim: near 80
Topcat275: kaveh, u in eur trade long or short
kaveh_48: this is SPAM?
dehav: haha 
dehav: not spam kaveh :P
kaveh_48: i am waiting for 38.2
fxfanatic: what price?
bobbhim: 95?
kaveh_48: BUT see TSD form that one FOX told to me
Rupp7: i think 95
kaveh_48: 1.2700
Topcat275: then you will short again, 
kaveh_48: i wil trade with u 2moro TRADE DEFICIT
kaveh_48: we have big move friday
kaveh_48: yep
Rupp7: ?
kiwichamp: fantastic 
Rupp7: you will close room after that?
kaveh_48: no
kaveh_48: but i will out
fxfanatic: out what?
fxfanatic: you only here 2 day?
fxfanatic: you want to go? and leave?
kiwichamp: out of the room for the day
kaveh_48: no
kaveh_48: i will see u on monday
sovo1: kaveh. friday you teach us to trade gold
fxfanatic: aha
kaveh_48: maybe
up4life: lcu k
up4life: cu
up4life: k
kaveh_48: but for uk markets we very busy
up4life: u leav now
kaveh_48: no
up4life: k
kaveh_48: i am here
sovo1: anyway to let's us in to see you in action
sovo1: in trading gold
Rupp7: if it bounces off 2700, what kindof pips do you look for? +10 pip?
kaveh_48: if break 50 short for 35
kaveh_48: yep
Rupp7: ok
kaveh_48: or 40 but see juice
fxfanatic: i dont undrestand what is 35?
Rupp7: 35 is next level down
kaveh_48: 1.2635
kaveh_48: yep
Rupp7: it is MM level
fxfanatic: what level?
kaveh_48: no
kaveh_48: kaveh level
Ardi1899:  kaveh level?
Rupp7: oh hehe
Ardi1899:  some brand new?
fxfanatic: i cant see any level there?
fxfanatic: where?
fxfanatic: any indicaotor?
fxfanatic: i have cam8
Rupp7: hmmm i have MM level at 2635
fxfanatic: and mm
Rupp7: on my chart
fxfanatic: no
fxfanatic: there is no MM there
fxfanatic: 2695 is 4/8
kaveh_48: i will back soon
kaveh_48: tea time
Ardi1899:  V u kaveh, thanks
bobbhim: kaveh is playing with you
bobbhim: guys relax
Ardi1899:  c u kaveh, thanks
fxfanatic: there is no level at 35
sovo1: you got to be psychic to know kaveh level..lol
bobbhim: lol
Rupp7: there is on my chart
fxfanatic: you kidding me? no level
fxfanatic: folks you have level at 35?
Rupp7: it is probably the different gmt shifts
monkey2402: i've got an s4 level
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monkey2402: the price is right on my s3 level now
Ardi1899:  so how many pips do you get today?
monkey2402: 75 for me, but i was lucky!
monkey2402: how about u ardi?
Ardi1899:  sometimes it happen    
Ardi1899:  let me count ...
monkey2402: rupp what do u mean by the gmt shifts?
Ardi1899:  46
Ardi1899:  I'm still learn
monkey2402: a good day
Rupp7: murrey math levels are calculated by previous highs and lows of the day
Rupp7: if your day of your broker begins and ends at different times, you may get different levels
monkey2402: ah ha
Rupp7: the levels will be the same, they maybe just shifted higher or lower
Rupp7: like 4/8 on my chart may be 2/8 on your chart
monkey2402: ic thx
Rupp7: like 2695 is MM level on your chart right?
kaveh_48: markets just die 
monkey2402: yes
kaveh_48: only bull and bear
monkey2402: 4/8 level
Rupp7: what is it label
kaveh_48: nothing more
Rupp7: see on my chart it is 0/8
Rupp7: but same level
monkey2402: right
Ramin_Aust: COG at 0.1815, 
Ardi1899:  in 40 min Kohn will speak, any possibility another good trade occur?
kaveh_48: yes 
kaveh_48: and big vbot on eur
kaveh_48: if beak 50 u can do it
kaveh_48: hamid268 u trade live here today
Topcat275: if  break 50 we go short or long 
Rupp7: short
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kaveh_48: short with juice
Topcat275: ok
kaveh_48: hamid are u sleep?
hamid268: yes kaveh
hamid268: very good
hamid268: tarde real
hamid268:    
hamid268:    
kaveh_48: ok
naturalnetbg: hi kav
kaveh_48: hi nat
Topcat275: is real
naturalnetbg: miss move
kaveh_48: faraz u trade too?
kaveh_48: where are nat today?
naturalnetbg: kids 
kaveh_48: means?
naturalnetbg: some problems
genius123_1: Kaveh...the big arrows on your screen-what it is?
kaveh_48: faraz are u here?
kaveh_48: where?
kaveh_48: where genius?
genius123_1: screen on TSD
naturalnetbg: kav we generaly change trand 
kaveh_48: color?
naturalnetbg: trend
kaveh_48: yep
kaveh_48: nat i will trade 2moro TRADE DEFICIT
kaveh_48: big move
kaveh_48: too
bholiday: time?
genius123_1: red and blue arrows
kaveh_48: blue is vtop
kaveh_48: not important
kaveh_48: and red too
genius123_1: ok thanks
qtrader-re: 10:00 NEWS AND 10:30 est in 35 min
qtrader-re: and 1 hr
kaveh_48: 8:30 EST TIMES
genius123_1: and thanks for many pips 
bholiday: thanks
qtrader-re: tomorrow kaveh? 8:30
kaveh_48:    
kaveh_48: yep
qtrader-re: great kaveh - will see you in the am- are you finished for today?
kaveh_48: we didnt trade lastday but az u see howmany pips today hunt
kaveh_48: no
naturalnetbg: on daily chart look like tree black crown
kaveh_48: i am here
payale: kaveh, u are a very patient person and very helpful. my many thanks for the pips i made.
qtrader-re: ok - thanks kaveh
kaveh_48:    
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Topcat275: hat off to kaveh48
kaveh_48: no
kaveh_48: -35,000 jobless 
kaveh_48: today
Topcat275: kaveh48 a very good man 
kaveh_48: I am here for YOU guys 
Rupp7: short call at 1.2715 was great  
bobbhim: kaveh euro is now 2657
payale: u are really great
Rupp7: i still not sure how you decide at 2715
bobbhim: are we still going in at 2650?
kaveh_48: i didnt loss this week any 1pips
kaveh_48: yes
bobbhim: thanks
kaveh_48: but jucie is very low
bobbhim: yes i see that
qtrader-re: short kaveh?
bobbhim: that is why im asked
kaveh_48: no
bobbhim: i asked
sovo1: kv, just read the forum. such an idiot.
sovo1: please donot hold that again us.
bobbhim: 50
kaveh_48: let me see
sovo1: we all are, i hope to speak to all here, appreciate what you have done in here
kaveh_48: go
sovo1: thanks
qtrader-re: go what kavceh - sorry
Rupp7: whew that was fast
Rupp7: it broke 50
kaveh_48: short
Rupp7: 2635 target?
qtrader-re: thanks
kaveh_48: +10pips
Ardi1899:   damn I miss it
Ardi1899:  sorry for my word
Rupp7: i am still in it
Ardi1899:     
kaveh_48: az u see how stop near 35
Rupp7: yeah
kaveh_48: really nice
kaveh_48: this is kaveh level
Rupp7: lol
Ardi1899:  you guys trade cable?
Ardi1899:  I see no arrow on eur
Rupp7: can short if break 35?
kaveh_48: 15:05 arrow
kaveh_48: see ardi
kaveh_48: if break 35 20 nest
kaveh_48: next
Rupp7: yes
ahmad_amin: a h4 line is near cable
Ardi1899:  sorry, but I see another long arrow at 15.17, so I was confused
kaveh_48: refrsh charts
kaveh_48: az u see how markets play with 35
Rupp7: yeah
kaveh_48: markets know if break 20 is next
Ardi1899:  okay
Rupp7: why 20?
kaveh_48: i will tell u how i find this level
Ramin_Aust: is not to late to get in now??
et_phonehome_2: which chart we talking about?
kaveh_48: out if u want
kaveh_48: but u made +10pips ramin
et_phonehome_2: i made 5 pips only on eurusd
kaveh_48: now out
kiwichamp: how did you find this level Kaveh ? 
kaveh_48: i will tell u
genius123_1: Kaveh wenn you tell?
et_phonehome_2: r u talking of eurusd
kaveh_48: friday
kiwichamp: ok 
kaveh_48: yep
sovo1: thanks
kaveh_48: ramin are u in?
kiwichamp: big day Friday ?
Ardi1899:  what time?
Ramin_Aust: no
sovo1: will be here
sovo1: same time?
kaveh_48: see how dtop near 35
kaveh_48: stop
kiwichamp: yes 
kaveh_48: and paly near 35
kiwichamp: yep 
et_phonehome_2: what mean dtop?
kaveh_48: stop
kaveh_48: back
kaveh_48: i will tell u know how i find this
kaveh_48: all of BIG BANK  when markets move like this
Ardi1899:  Kaveh would you mind to write it on doc file? or on tsd forum?
kaveh_48: no
kaveh_48: this optional trade
Ardi1899:  okay
kaveh_48: not original rule
kaveh_48: ok?
fxfanatic: to go short?
fxfanatic: why, we have setup here
fxfanatic: kaveh?
et_phonehome_2: if u wait for arrow, you will surely miss the trade
kaveh_48: WE SHORT AND OUT HERE
fxfanatic: short at what price?
kaveh_48: PLEASE ATTETION
kaveh_48: WHEN MARKETS MOVE LIKE THIS
kaveh_48: ALL OF BIG BANK TRADE NEAR 15-20PIPS
kaveh_48: AZ U SEE MARKETS HOW FALL
Rupp7: i see
kiwichamp: yes -
kaveh_48: THAY ARE TRADE FOR EXAMPLE +200,000LOTS
Rupp7: when level break you just take 15 pip next level
kaveh_48: FOR 15-20PIPS ONLY
kaveh_48: AND BIG BACK TAKE PROFIT AND THEN OUT
kaveh_48: THIS RULE OF THIS LEVEL
yb2erl: i see
et_phonehome_2: u mean when its considating 
kaveh_48: 1.2620 NEXT LEVEL
kaveh_48: YES
kaveh_48: BIG BANK IN USA WORK LIKE THIS
et_phonehome_2: every pip counts
kaveh_48: YES
kiwichamp: so we are working along with them 
kiwichamp: ?
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kaveh_48: YES
kiwichamp: aaa 
kaveh_48: AZ U SEE BACK SOLD 1.2638 AND CLOSED 1.2628
et_phonehome_2: what mean when the COG lines are flat with one another, the green and red?
kiwichamp: yes
fxfanatic: what is this 2620? kaveh
kiwichamp: yes they are on top of each other
kaveh_48: AND SOLD 1.2633 AND NEXT 1.2623 OF 1.2618
Ramin_Aust: r u in kaveh??
ahmad_amin: kave 1 quest    close pos this morning with +130 ? 
kaveh_48: AZ U SEE BANK CLOSED 1.2623
kaveh_48: NO
kaveh_48: I OUT
et_phonehome_2: when COG n top of each other should we avoid trade?
kaveh_48: NOW IF BREAK 1.2623 %100 1.2613OR1.2608 NEXT TARGET
Ardi1899:  cable is reverse, should we enter if juice is +7?
Ardi1899:  long entry?
ahmad_amin: thx
kaveh_48: DONT TRADE AGAINST RIVER ARDI
Ardi1899:  okay
kaveh_48: MAYBE FALL NEAR 50
kaveh_48: GOT IT GUYS KAVEH LEVEL
et_phonehome_2: what mean trade against river?
kaveh_48: ???
ekim28: yes
kaveh_48: DONT
Ardi1899:  against the treand I guess
kaveh_48: YES
kiwichamp:  against the flow -- against the trend -- against the river
kaveh_48: az u see i trade here like big bank
bholiday: against the force
et_phonehome_2: but if COG is up and juice are all above .0007, mean we ignore it since thats not the trend
et_phonehome_2: ??
kaveh_48: i took +10to 20pips and then out
kaveh_48: yes
kaveh_48: trend is down
kaveh_48: now
monkey2402: kav is it 50 cz of the 38.2 retracement of the last rally?
kaveh_48: yep
monkey2402: ah ha! bingo!
Ardi1899:     
et_phonehome_2: monkey, how plot retracements..... fibo was always a mystery to me for plotting
kaveh_48: all of big BANK HUNT many $$$$$$$$ like this
monkey2402: pull your fib lines from the top of the last bounce at 1.2685 or near down to last low
kiwichamp: and you BIG BANK hunt when there is a strong trend right ?
et_phonehome_2: thanks monkey
kaveh_48: yes
kiwichamp: thanks 
kaveh_48: in this markets u must hunt with big BANK
kiwichamp: right .. 
kiwichamp: I am understanding that today 
et_phonehome_2: u plot against what TF for fibo?
Ardi1899:  kaveh, just a thought. Why don't you build another turtles?    
et_phonehome_2: I guess TF not matter
monkey2402: i dont think it matters
kaveh_48: az u see how bounce near 50
kaveh_48: for few pips
Ramin_Aust: kaveh,COG is now bouncing we need juice to go long here??
kaveh_48: ramin are ok?
kaveh_48: why buy???????
Ramin_Aust: i thought cos COG is bouncing from 15 now
et_phonehome_2: monkey, which low did you plot fobo lines, just trying to understand fibo more..
et_phonehome_2: i guess you choose the lastest high when plotting, but go how far back?  I heard fibo is subjective...
Ramin_Aust: or how can we know its end of the run??
kaveh_48: et_phonehome what is your problem u wrote on tsd?
et_phonehome_2: u mean about the stop reversal?
monkey2402: et-on my chart it's 1.2689 down to 1.2626
kaveh_48: How can u expect someone to trade and talk and the same time?
kaveh_48: about this?
kaveh_48: u want i use voice?
et_phonehome_2: i am just saying that the guy cannot expect u to talk and trade at the same time...
kaveh_48: for trade?
bholiday: voice would help
bholiday: because faster
et_phonehome_2: u need to make money also so how can he expect you tell all signals
bholiday: and you could concentrate
bholiday: instead of type
kaveh_48: in office near 25 pepole here
hamid268: 40 people here
kaveh_48: and if i want to talk u u can hear very busy voice
Rupp7: he saying dont criticize you because your are trading and trying to type at same time
et_phonehome_2: i have nothing against you, i just think the person is expecting too much from u since trading is your living
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kaveh_48: i have assitanat here for my potions
bholiday: whatever works best for you kaveh...we appreciate your help
Rupp7: he's talking about the other guy on TSD who complain about your calls
sovo1: yes, kaveh the other guy
et_phonehome_2: correcty, the other guy should not complain....he should try to learn as i am also 
sovo1: such an idiot
kaveh_48: i know it and want to know he want voice trade signal
kiwichamp: he does not deserve that 
Ardi1899:  He said he's been here for 4 days, I guess he's still here
et_phonehome_2: i think the other guy is expecting you tell him everything u trade which i think is wrong, he should try to learn your methods
kaveh_48: no problem this room is free
et_phonehome_2: soory Kaveh is my english not so good
Ardi1899:  big heart Kaveh, very nice
kaveh_48: and i am very glad for this free
kiwichamp: yes 
sovo1: not as glad as we all are, thanks kv
kaveh_48: et_.... where are u from?
kiwichamp: your english is fine et_phone -- 
et_phonehome_2: New York
qtrader-re: thanks kaveh- I am also glad for the freee   
kiwichamp: we can understand you 
et_phonehome_2: i am glad you help us all to understand how to trade
kiwichamp: where were you born et_ ?
payale: kaveh, do we short a bounce down from 1.2650?
kiwichamp: P.R. ?
kaveh_48: this markets is not min only this markets is for us
et_phonehome_2: born in this country, but terrible in english
et_phonehome_2: bad english grammar i am always told
kaveh_48: no problem
kiwichamp: aaa -- well you can study and correct that 
kiwichamp: you speak English at home ?
kiwichamp: we understand you -- but it is always good to study to improve ourselves 
et_phonehome_2: mostly speak English, but writing is not so hot
Ardi1899:  as long as we can understand each other, that won't be a problem
kiwichamp: ok and Spanish ?
et_phonehome_2: in school, teacher thought i was foreign born since i am terrible at writing
sovo1: that's why this is good to practice your writing skill
kiwichamp: yep
et_phonehome_2: pratice makes perfect
kiwichamp: yep 
fxaus: hi room
fxaus: hi kiwi
et_phonehome_2: the more Kaveh teaches us, we will all become better traders
kiwichamp: hi aussie -- how is sydney today ?
fxfanatic: hi fxaus
sovo1: yes, et, that's so true
fxaus: cold night
sovo1: hi fxaus
fxaus: hi sovo
sovo1: did you miss the action this morning>>
sovo1: very good lesson today
payale: kaveh, do we short a bounce down from 1.2650 if cog agrees?
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fxaus: really
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kiwichamp: yes excellent lesson today 
kaveh_48: but cog is up now
kaveh_48: risky
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payale: if cog down then we can, right?
kaveh_48: time is out i think
fxfanatic: kaveh, in what time frame u use and draw fibonacci?
kaveh_48: no diffrenc
payale: do we draw it every hour?
kaveh_48: 1min charts is better
kaveh_48: depond on markets
kaveh_48: maybe 4hour
kiwichamp: when there is a strong trend -- 4 hrs is ok ?
fxfanatic: long eur kaveh?
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kaveh_48: fxfanatinc why long
fxfanatic: look the juice and cross?
fxfanatic: isnt that true??
fxfanatic: so why not?
kaveh_48: yes but az u see trend id down
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kaveh_48: all trend
kaveh_48: u can do it
kaveh_48: with high risk
fxfanatic: what trend?
fxfanatic: COG is ok?
fxfanatic: what do you mean of trend?
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sovo1: yes, a couple  trade before, we all goes against the cog, right kaveh
kaveh_48: means 200pips down today
kaveh_48: means down
kaveh_48: not up
fxfanatic: y
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kaveh_48: and by the way cog now under 0.1817
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Ardi1899:  so we don't use any indicator to determine trend?
kaveh_48: break it 0.1817 u want long?
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kaveh_48: trend for cog is up but must break 0.1817 u can long it
kaveh_48: u will see how cog revers at 0.1817
Rupp7: kaveh you ever use 23.6 fib level?
kaveh_48: no
Rupp7: ok
kaveh_48: when near 1.2680 32.8 cog will bounce
kaveh_48: you will see
Ardi1899:  so cog > 17 means bull only, and cog < 17 means bear only?
kaveh_48: no
kaveh_48: this level of bounce or break only
Ardi1899:  I mean we can sell if cog >17 and buy if cog<17?
kaveh_48: no
Ardi1899:  ah..
yb2erl: kok ah
kaveh_48: now see how back
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kaveh_48: now only bull and bear
Ardi1899:  I'm a little bit confused    
kaveh_48: i will back soon
yb2erl:    
kiwichamp: ok 
kiwichamp: thanks for today's lesson Kaveh
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sovo1: is there any news coming up
Ardi1899:  Guys I need your help.  Kaveh said that "trend for cog is up but must break 0.1817 u can long it"
Ardi1899:  didn't it mean we can long if cog >17
et_phonehome_2: does that mean .1817 is always a significant number?
Ardi1899:  otherwise short if cog<17?
Rupp7: he has mentioned that before
Ardi1899:  when?
Rupp7: a few days ago
Ardi1899:  waw..
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Ardi1899:  I miss that one
Ardi1899:  what was he said?
sovo1: yes, please fill us in
et_phonehome_2: but he said it does not mean can go long or short on this number...
Rupp7: just that 1817 seemed important cog level
kiwichamp: yes it is 
Ardi1899:  so what is "important" means if applied to trading?
et_phonehome_2: any posts anywhere on this COG interpretation
Rupp7: well if he says"trend for cog is up but must break 0.1817 u can long it"
Rupp7: that tells me it is significant level
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Ardi1899:  I know so we can't long before cog over 1817
kiwichamp: right 
Ardi1899:  so is it some kind of filter?
Rupp7: but I dont know if there is any set rule for that, you will h ave to ask him
kiwichamp: he uses 1817 as a confirmation level 
et_phonehome_2: but he said it does not mean go long or short
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Ardi1899:  confirmation for what?
Ardi1899:  the trend is strengthen?
Rupp7: confirmation that you could take a trade that is AGAINST the trend
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kiwichamp: yes 
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kiwichamp: I am looking for the rule 
Rupp7: any trade long right now would be against the overall trend
Ardi1899:  I see
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Ardi1899:  thanks Rupp7
Rupp7: you need more confirmation than just an arrow appearing
Rupp7: np
sovo1: I think the rule in the forum doesnot apply to today lesson of trading with the trend
et_phonehome_2: if trend is down, then all juice must be above .007 and the COG must also be down, is that correct
Ardi1899:  that help me alot
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kiwichamp: todays lesson was an extra -- 
kiwichamp: what he calls optional trades
et_phonehome_2: by COG down, I mean the red line
et_phonehome_2: ??
kiwichamp: red line is above when COG is down 
kiwichamp: red line is below when COG is up 
et_phonehome_2: does nayone use the up/down arrows on the price charts themselves?
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kiwichamp: yes 
Rupp7: yeah
kiwichamp: the stop/reversal arrows 
Rupp7: where else would you have them?
Rupp7: i dont think you can even put them in a seperate window
et_phonehome_2: i was curious since i just look at COG and Juice
Rupp7: ahh i see
et_phonehome_2: i think the arrows is somewhat after the fact, am i correct?
Rupp7: yeah its coded to be in the chart window
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Rupp7: yes, it lags, like all indicators
payale: kiwicamp, today's lesson and the other lessons that kaveh gives free are more than what most other forum teaches you. 
et_phonehome_2: is there any rule for best entry price or do we go in when the conditions are in our favor?
kiwichamp: yes they are payale 
payale: you pay a lot in other groups and don't get much out of it.
kiwichamp: yep 
et_phonehome_2: so true....
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kiwichamp: I plan on being here fully concentrating on all that is happening 
kiwichamp: to learn ALL I can 
Rupp7: same here
kiwichamp: this is an opportunity that does not come along too many times in a life time
payale: alod they get very annoyed when u ask simple questions. kaveh has lots of patience answering all our questions.
et_phonehome_2: i heard that this one trader teaches via email, but when he trades, its possible to talk trades with him since that's his lbread and butter....
Rupp7: and today was amazing
et_phonehome_2: impossible
kiwichamp: well Kaveh has staff who help him -- 
Rupp7: i think im going to take todays chart and study it for about 3 hours
et_phonehome_2: kaveh is good at helping us
kiwichamp: yes 
kiwichamp: that sounds like a good plan 
kiwichamp: ready to catch them tomorrow 
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kiwichamp: that is why I have been watching as much as I have - to train (retrain) my brain 
kiwichamp: and coordination 
kiwichamp: to react and work fast 
et_phonehome_2: i need more screens, so hard with one screen to see everything
Rupp7: yeah
kiwichamp: yep 
et_phonehome_2: does everyone here trade for a living
kiwichamp: I have a 4 screen setup on the top of my "Equipment to Buy" list 
payale: i do
Barry411: I have one question Dose kaveh keep moving the fig to the lates high low ?
Rupp7: not yet
alexw8: i do
payale: i think so barry411
Ardi1899:  just 2 maybe
Barry411: ok
et_phonehome_2: i'm just playing with it, not making enough pips to trade for a living
payale: as new highs and lows are made, u draw ur fib
et_phonehome_2: i do trade live acct
Rupp7: I am demo trading until I have COMPLETE confidence in the system im using and myself
Rupp7: but im getting close
et_phonehome_2: is there anything out there that will auto plot the fibs or is it not recommended?
kiwichamp: there is a Fib indicator 
et_phonehome_2: for MT4?
kiwichamp: yes 
et_phonehome_2: where can I find it?
kiwichamp: but it works like pivot points from a certain time to a certain time 
kiwichamp: I can send it to you if you like 
Barry411: I put MM on the chart and it is so clatered I can't tell what is going on
kaveh_48: buy guys
et_phonehome_2: that would be great
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kaveh_48: see 2moro
Rupp7: cya kaveh
et_phonehome_2: bye Kaveh, thanks....
kiwichamp: bye Kaveh 
kiwichamp: thanks for today 
payale: bye kaveh and thanks for today
et_phonehome_2: learned a lot today....
alexw8: bye Kaveh and ty
kaveh_48: we will trade live at 8:30 CET
Ardi1899:  bye kaveh
kiwichamp: ok 
dehav: bye
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Ardi1899:  c u tomorrow
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et_phonehome_2: kiwi, does plotting of fibs automatically chnage everytime?
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kiwichamp: no -- the indicator just changes at the end of the day 
et_phonehome_2: does it mean we should just plot fibs once and that's it?
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kiwichamp: sending it to you so you can see 
Barry411: send to me also
kiwichamp: ok 
Barry411: thanks
Rupp7: it depends what are drawing your fib line on
et_phonehome_2: thanks KIWI
Ardi1899:  is cam7 isn't enough?
Rupp7: if drawing it on the current trend, yes you have to redraw at each new high or low
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kiwichamp: coming over Barry 
et_phonehome_2: Fibs was always a mystsery to me, but it seems most analysts uses it
kiwichamp: yes
alexw8: et_ more fib here http://www.forex-tsd.com/indicators-metatrader-4/259-fibo-gann-variations.html?highlight=fibs
Barry411: got the file
kiwichamp: great 
et_phonehome_2: thanks alexw8
alexw8: i from NY too
kiwichamp: yes there is all the Fib indicators you could want 
kiwichamp: great 
et_phonehome_2: i tried reading some book i bought by Fischer, so terrible, hard to understand
Rupp7: yeah alot of those books are overcomplicated
et_phonehome_2: i always need something that is simple and to the point
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kiwichamp: yes like Elliot theroy -- phewl 
kiwichamp: yep much better 
Ardi1899:  What about DiNapoli's book?
et_phonehome_2: forget Elliot
Ardi1899:  he tech fibo too
et_phonehome_2: How is DiNapoli's indicators?
Ardi1899:  Looks good, but I can't say nothing since I haven't done yet with his book
Ardi1899:  sorry.. I can say nothing
Ardi1899:  but he mention a lot about fibo
et_phonehome_2: ok.... even when trying to understand concepts on the web, not so easy since many do not show good examples...
et_phonehome_2: or any examples for that matter
et_phonehome_2: like they say, a picture is worth a thousand words, but its only good if they draw lines pointing to what is being talked about
et_phonehome_2: the authors always presume we all know what is being referred to..
Ardi1899:  It's better to have private mentor
kiwichamp: yes 
kiwichamp: this training with KAveh is better that 1000 books
et_phonehome_2: yes... i know many traders that does mentoring of groups, but very costly
payale: u bet kiwichamp
kiwichamp: yes very costly -- $100 an hr or so 
kiwichamp: we get 8 hrs or more a day free 
Ardi1899:  100/hour?
Barry411: when kaveh48 gives a number they don't mach my numbers like r3 and so on
payale: and no one will give the how bankers play etc..
et_phonehome_2: most i know will just charge a flat fee
kiwichamp: yep some charge that 
payale: we get all those from kaveh
kiwichamp: yes
et_phonehome_2: I know some charge min of $3000 just for one week....
Rupp7: lol
Ardi1899:  Barry, what is your broker?
et_phonehome_2: bye all, thanks for all your help today....
et_phonehome_2: bye.......
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kiwichamp: by et_phone
Barry411: interbankfx
alexw8: bye et_
payale: i joined a forum last month for $$ and did not get anything like i am getting from kaveh.
Rupp7: and the more they charge, that means the less money they make from their actual trading
payale: i am out of it.
Ardi1899:  try neuimex when using this strategy
kiwichamp: right 
kiwichamp: yes that is what I am using 
Barry411: ok
kiwichamp: opened a live account with Nth Finance -- 
kiwichamp: they are a part of neuimex I think 
kiwichamp: you can start with just $100 with Nth Fin
kiwichamp: so cheap training live  
Ardi1899:  but different servertime I guess
kiwichamp: yes
Rupp7: its GMT+3
kiwichamp: same as what Kaveh uses 
Ardi1899:  different daily OHLC
kiwichamp: he recommends Neuimex 
alexw8: bye room 
Ardi1899:  bye alex
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kiwichamp: bye Alex
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Barry411: the setting on cam7  GMT shift Sun and GMT shift what are they to be set on?
LLBHONS: ive got cam8, whats the difference?
Barry411: My live brocker i GMT 0
Ardi1899:  would you mind to send that file to me LLBHONS?
Barry411: i don
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Barry411: I don't know
LLBHONS: sure ill post it on TSD
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Ardi1899:  okay
Ardi1899:  thanks
Ardi1899:  somebody may answer Barry please?
Ardi1899:  "the setting on cam7  GMT shift Sun and GMT shift what are they to be set on?"
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Ardi1899:  we, he's out
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LLBHONS: Ardi its on the site (cam8)
Ardi1899:  I'll check it, thanks LLBHONS
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LLBHONS: Im off to enjoy some rare sunshine in London - good day to all 
payale: have fun under the sun llbhons
Ardi1899:  good day
kiwichamp: and to you too 
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